Paine's one smart cookie; I've listened to several of her talks, and prefer her narrative (and Alexander Stubbs) over that of John Mearsheimer (who's said some whoppers over the last few years, from claiming that the Maiden Revolution was a CIA orchestrated coup and that Putin is doing everything he can to avoid civilian casualties, to the claim that the massacre of civilians—including bound women and children, along with torture chambers & rape rooms—around Bucha was Ukraine's fault, as they'd distributed firearms as the invasion unfolded).
Love to see them debate.
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